Young and Old Together Sharing Wisdom: Doesn’t Get Much Better than This!

I’m a firm believer in the power of older people sharing their wisdom and advice for living with younger folks. But rarely do I get to see it in action the way I did at the University of Rhoda Island a few weeks ago. It was a powerful testament to the way the generations can come together both to share important ideas – and to enjoy each other’s company.

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To our South Korean Fans: 당신의 도움이 필요합니다!

I hope I got that phrase right! For those of you who don’t speak Korean, it should mean “I need your help!”South Korea edition

Specifically, I would love some help in understanding something that’s wonderful, but a bit mysterious: the astonishing reaction to the Legacy Project’s message in South Korea.

After the book on the Legacy Project, 30 Lessons for Living, was published, translations have come out in German, Chinese, and Japanese, among others. Everywhere, we’ve gotten great feedback about the elder wisdom portrayed in the book.

But nowhere has the interest been as overwhelming as in South Korea (where the title is 내가 알고 있는 걸 당신도 알게 된다면).

The book was published in South Korea (with the cool cover, above) one year ago. It has been on the South Korean bestseller list since then  (right now it’s #4) and has sold  over 160,000 copies. On a site that publishes book reviews (similar, I gather, to Goodreads), it is one of the most reviewed self-help books – and mostly with top scores.

So I would love to know: Why has 30 Lessons for Living been such a hit in South Korea?

With the help of a Korean-speaking colleague, I explored the media and blog attention to the book, which gave  ideas like these:

  • Readers in their 30’s and 40’s expressed how the book helped them to think about their current concerns, like parenting, marriage, and fear of getting old.
  • Historically, young South Koreans were supposed to respect elders, but this attitude is being replaced with views of the older generation as old-fashioned and outdated.
  • The book appealed to nostalgia for times when there were stronger links between the generations in South Korea.
  • The book included questions that the readers wanted to ask their own parents and grand parents.

These reasons all seem plausible, but still don’t seem to explain entirely why 30 Lessons for Living has resonated so strongly with South Korean readers.

Any ideas out there? If so, please share them as comments!

 

 

Ask Your Elders While There’s Still Time: Six Great Questions

This year, I lost two important elders in my life. Ruth was my undergraduate mentor – a professor who took meNEWS  under her wing many years ago and brought me into the field of gerontology. Helene came back to my university 20 years ago, got her degree in her early 70s, and worked with me as a research assistant into her 80s. She remained a trusted friend and advisor. Both of these remarkable women passed away this year, leaving us with wonderful memories.

But in each case, they left us with something more: a statement of their lessons for living. And that’s because I interviewed both of them for the Legacy Project. Their friends and families now have a record of the advice they offered to younger people for living a happier and more fulfilling life, learned over their long lives (87 and 89, respectively).

In this post, I urge you to do the same – before it’s too late.

One goal of the Legacy Project is to encourage people to talk with elders – older family members, friends, neighbors –  about their lessons for living. But people wonder about the kinds of questions we used to get elders talking about their advice for younger people. We’ve got an answer – and now is as good time as any to ask your family’s elders (or your older friends) about there lessons!

After interviewing hundreds of older people about their advice for younger generations, we were able to identify questions that work well to get the conversation started. These six questions were particularly thought-provoking for our respondents and brought a wide range of interesting answers.

1. If a young person asked you, “What have you learned in your ____ years in this world,” what would you tell him or her?

2. Some people say that they have had difficult or stressful experiences but they have learned important lessons from them. Is that true for you? Can you give an example?

3. As you look back over your life, do you see any “turning points”; that is, a key event or experience that changed the course of your life or set you on a different track?

4. What would you say you know now about living a happy and successful life that you didn’t know when you were twenty?

5. What can younger people do to avoid having regrets later in life?

6. What would you say are the major values or principles that you live by?

And after you’ve talked with your elder – don’t forget to post some lessons on our “Share Your Lessons” page!

We’re Back! And Welcoming Our Summer Interns – And Guest Bloggers!

It’s been a great break for two months, allowing the Legacy Project team to concentrate on our new project, in which we’re gathering the advice for love, committed relationships, and marriage from the oldest (and wisest) Americans. We’ll be back to posting new elder wisdom regularly (including hot-off-the-presses lessons from the new Marriage Advice Project). We hope you missed us, and we’re glad to be back!

And what better way to start up again than to introduce you to our two fantastic summer undergraduate interns who have been part of a very innovative program developed by our partner Risa Breckman in the Division of Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York City. Risa is director of the New York City Elder Abuse Center, which addresses many issues related to mistreatment of older people.

The interns spend time both learning about older people in difficult situations, including elder abuse and neglect. But they balance out that challenging work with Legacy Project interviews, seeking gems of elder wisdom about living a happy and fulfilling life. This unique combination of experiences provides a tremendous background on both the possibilities and the difficulties of aging.

We’ll be posting their guest blogs on elder wisdom soon. But first, join us in welcoming these budding gerontologists!

Laura Museau:
Laura Museau is a rising Junior at Cornell University majoring in Human Development on a pre-medical track. During her sophomore year at Cornell while taking a class on adulthood and aging Laura realized that she was largely unaware of matters concerning older people, especially elder abuse and neglect. It is for this reason she chose to apply to the Risk and Resiliency Internship Project (RRIP). As an intern with the RRIP, she is looking forward to learning how different agencies and systems in New York City are responding to elder abuse. Laura is also excited to hear the wisdom elders have to share by conducting interviews with them through the Legacy Project. She hopes to leave this summer with a newfound appreciation for the elderly and a plan to help others on Cornell’s campus open their eyes to the value of older adults and the unique challenges they face. She believes that the elderly are undervalued in our society, but that raising awareness through education can prevent issues such as elder abuse from slipping under the radar.

Austin Lee:
Austin Lee is rising senior in the College of Arts and Sciences at Cornell University. He is double majoring in Sociology and Biology & Society and minoring in Gerontology. Austin’s interest in the elderly was sparked when he joined the Cornell Elderly Partnership (CEP) as a freshman and began regularly volunteering and working with older adults within the Ithaca community. As one of the two students working with the Risk and Resiliency Project Internship for the summer of 2013, Austin hopes to learn more about the nuances of elder abuse. He is excited by the opportunity to interact with professionals and organizations within the field of aging and elder abuse and work alongside them. The Risk and Resiliency Project’s partnership with the Legacy Project is an appealing aspect of the internship because it provides a unique chance to interact with older adults in a research setting that is focused on learning from their experiences in life. Gerontology has become a true passion for Austin, and he plans to pursue a career in the field. With this in mind, he is looking forward to taking a more active role in advocating against ageism and elder abuse through all that he learns this summer.

Stay tuned for their guest blogs!

The Legacy Project Takes a Break

Dear Legacy Project Readers,

We’re taking a break in the month of July from new posts. If you are new here, there are hundreds of lessons for living from the oldest (and wisest) Americans. The Legacy Project has collected these life lessons from over 1500 people in their 70s, 80s, and beyond. Go to the About this Project page for suggestions on how best to enjoy the practical advice for living you will find here. More information can be found in the book on the Legacy Project: 30 Lessons for Living: Tried and True Advice from the Wisest Americans.

Stay tuned for news about the next step in the Legacy Project. We have collected information from hundreds of long-married elders about getting and staying married. In fact, we’re pouring over those responses this summer (and it’s one reason why we’re taking a break). We’ll be sharing lots of relationship advice from the wisest Americans when we return!

Happy Summer!

30 Lessons for Living: The Backstory

Over the past year since the publication of my book 30 Lessons for Living: Tried and True Advice from the Wisest Americans, I have been gratified and touched by how much interest there is in harnessing the power of elder wisdom to improve our daily lives. People have asked for more details about the book and where the idea came from.

So I’m pleased to share an interview I conducted with the terrific ideas blog Farnam Street. It was a great opportunity to share some of the thinking that went behind the book, as well as my favorite lessons for living from the 1200 elders.

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INTERVIEWER

Can you tell me about yourself? This was a fascinating project, how did this project come about?

PILLEMER

As a gerontologist – someone who studies older people – I realized that I had focused much of my research over the past 25 years on problems of aging: nursing homes, Alzheimer’s disease, elder abuse. And that’s how our society also often looks at old people: as frail, needy, and about to bust our federal budget. But in my work, I kept meeting older people – many of whom had lost loved ones, been through tremendous difficulties, and had serious health problems – but who nevertheless were happy, fulfilled, and deeply enjoying life. I found myself asking: “What’s that all about?”

And I started seeing some fascinating research in the field of positive psychology. Study after study has shown that older people – in their 70s, 80s, and beyond – are actually happier than younger people.

One day it hit me: Maybe older people know things that younger people don’t about living a happy, healthy, fulfilling life. To my surprise I found that no one had actually done a study to answer the question: What practical advice do older people have for the younger generation? That set me off on a quest for knowledge – for the practical wisdom of older people – that lasted seven years.

So two of the main reasons for doing the project are these:

First, the fundamental hypothesis of this project and the book is that older people are the most credible experts we have on how to live happy and fulfilled lives during hard times. They have experienced extraordinarily historical events that tested their limits – and they have learned how to cope with them, to survive and to thrive. They have also been through the kinds of personal challenges and tragedies that younger people lie awake at night worrying about: loss of parents and spouses, even children; the ups and downs of marriage, child-rearing problems, bad jobs and unemployment. And they have come through them, and often are happier than younger people, as research shows us. What better source of advice for living for the rest of us?

Second, it was absolutely urgent to do a project like this now. Because this precious resource – the wisdom for living from this greatest generation – is about to disappear. In 10 years, most of this extraordinary generation – who lived through poverty in the Depression, who fought or held families together in WW II – will almost all be gone. And their advice for living would be lost forever.

That’s what I was able to capture in the Legacy Project: Not clichés or platitudes – like you see in some self-help books – but real, practical advice and tips for living better, on things like how to find a mate and stay happily married, how to raise kids, how to find a great job and succeed at it, how to avoid regrets, and how to age successfully. I wanted to take it and make it easy and fun to read for younger people – and older as well.

INTERVIEWER

You interviewed a diverse group of over 1,000 seniors. A group you call “the experts” because they’ve done something we haven’t, that is, they’ve lived a long life. What is the most important lesson they want to pass along to the young?

PILLEMER

At the core of their lessons for younger people is one major insight. And this lesson is a key to understanding their other lessons. It’s a beautiful example, because it shows something older people uniquely know – because of where they stand on life’s road – but that younger people can benefit from.

This lesson is one that almost everyone expressed. And they did it vehemently. It is kind of like one of those nightmares where you are yelling and no one can hear you. What they want younger people to know is this: life is short. The older the respondent, the more likely to say that life passes by in what seems like an instant.

They say this not to depress younger people, but to get them to be more aware and selective about how they use their time. Older people practice what psychologists call ‘socioemotional selectivity” – because their time is limited, they make careful decisions about how to use their time. The discovery of the Legacy Project is that younger people can learn from this and practice it earlier in life. As one man told me: “I wish I’d learned this in my 30s instead of in my 60s; I would have had so much more time to enjoy life.”

So they tell young people to stop wasting time and instead to use it more carefully. Some implications of this insight are to say things now to people you care about, whether it is expressing gratitude, asking forgiveness, or getting information; spending the maximum amount of time with children; and savoring daily pleasures instead of waiting for “big-ticket items” to make you happy.

Another piece of advice comes from this idea that life is much shorter than you realize: Take a chance. People in their 70s, 80s, 90s and beyond endorse taking risks when you’re young, contrary to a stereotype that elders are conservative. Their message to young people starting out is “Go for it!” They say that you are much more likely to regret what you didn’t do than what you did. As one 80-year old, successful entrepreneur told me: ‘Unless you have a compelling reason to say no, always say yes to opportunities.”

INTERVIEWER

One of the things I took away from the book is that a lot of the people you interviewed believed that happiness is a choice, that we can just choose to be happy. Some people are skeptical of the claim happiness is a choice. Can you elaborate on that?

PILLEMER

One of my first interviewees made me aware of this core piece of elder wisdom. I asked her to help me to understand the sources of her happiness. She thought for a moment and then offered the explanation that could serve as a motto for the elders: “In my 89 years, I’ve learned that happiness is a choice – not a condition.”

Most of the elders said that taking charge of one’s own happiness simply must happen at some point if one is going to live a fulfilling life, and especially in old age. Not trying to assume control over everything that happens to us – they laughed at that idea – but over our own conscious attitude toward happiness.

Another elder told me: “My single best piece of advice is to take responsibility for your own happiness throughout your life.”

The elders make the key distinction between events that happen to us on the one hand, and our internal attitude toward happiness on the other. Happy in spite of. Happiness is not a passive condition dependent on external events, nor is it the result of our personalities – just being born a happy person. Instead, happiness requires a conscious shift in outlook, in which one chooses – daily – optimism over pessimism, hope over despair.

Another of the elders described this idea as a revelation to her: “The biggest light bulb over my head came to me when I saw I could move away from painful situations by using my choices. I didn’t have to stay and take the pain. I could initiate change. This was a turning point in my life.”

You can choose to be happy, the Experts tell us, in spite of financial hardship, illness and loss. And it’s not an empty cliché, because so many are doing it right now.

INTERVIEWER

What do the experts say is most important for a long and happy marriage?

PILLEMER

Their number one lesson is: Choose your mate carefully! The key is not to rush the decision, taking all the time needed to get to know the prospective partner and to determine your compatibility with them. Said one respondent: “Don’t rush in without knowing each other deeply. That’s very dangerous, but people do it all the time.” Also make sure you like his or her family.

INTERVIEWER

One of the tips was to work in a job you love. They were essentially saying life is short, choose a job for intrinsic not monetary rewards. Can you expand on that and maybe touch on any tips they had on making the best of a bad job?

PILLEMER

The elders are unanimous on that one point: Choose a career for its intrinsic value rather than how much money you will make. Our elders are keenly aware of how short life is, and they think it’s a mistake to waste precious lifetime in work you don’t like. They tell you to avoid statements like: ‘I’d really love to do ___, but I think I can make more money doing ___.’ According to our elders, you need to be able to get up on the morning excited about work, so choose your career with that in mind.

And it’s true that the older generation has this advice for work: Make the most of a bad job. Remember that many of these folks who grew up in the Great Depression had bad jobs early on – in fact, their bad jobs make our bad jobs look like good jobs! They found, however, that they learned invaluable lessons from these less-than-ideal work situations. You can learn how the industry works, about communicating with other employees, about customer service. As one man told me: ‘You can even learn from a bad boss – how not to be a bad boss!’ All this is useful in your future career.

I would add that when asked about what makes a job truly rewarding, the oldest Americans stress autonomy. They suggest that you look for a job that offers you as much self-direction as possible – and that taking a lower salary for a job that offers you greater freedom is worth it. An 82-year old successful entrepreneur told me: “The autonomy – most people never understand that. They’re slaves to somebody. The feeling that when you have this freedom –– there’s no money that can pay for it. You can’t buy it. You have to earn it, you have to feel it, and you know something? It doesn’t get better!’”

INTERVIEWER

What were their biggest regrets?

PILLEMER

When asked what they regret in life, many of the oldest Americans said: ‘I wish I’d traveled more.’ They recommend that people embrace travel, and especially when they are young. So if young people right now are wondering what to do with those graduation gifts, elder wisdom says to look into some travel (and low budget is fine) before you begin that first job.

Another of their biggest regrets made a real impression on me. I need to admit that I’m a world-class worrier. So for me a particularly striking lesson for avoiding regret – and a nearly unanimous one – was this: Stop worrying. The elders deeply regret time wasted worrying about things that never happened. So looking back from the end of life, they take a radical view of worry. As one elder told me: “Worry wastes your life.” In the book, I give readers specific tips offered by the elders for breaking the worry habit – and they work!

INTERVIEWER

What’s changed in your life — what do you do differently now — after writing this book?

PILLEMER

I can genuinely say that the six years I spent talking to older people all over the country about their lessons for living changed my own life. I have tried to put into practice what they told me as much as I can. One thing just about every elder advises is this: “Live like your life is short.” That’s one thing they know from the vantage point at the end of the life course. They say this not to depress us, but to help us make better decisions, to savor daily life, and to say things to people that need to be said (while they are still around). I have developed more of a “carpe diem” mentality since doing this project, and I think people who read the book will too.

Probably the most extraordinary thing I learned was this: Old age is much better than we think it will be. For a lot of people who read the book, I think they will wind up being a lot less fearful about the last third of life, and much more optimistic. As one person told me: “My advice about growing old? I’d tell them to find the magic.” Despite their problems, most of the people I interviewed feel that they are happier in some ways, freer, clearer in their priorities than they were when they were younger.

If anything comes out of this book, I hope it’s this: Making people aware of the source of wisdom that’s right in front of them: America’s elders. We’re going through economic upheavals and families are struggling: Who better to ask than people who survived the Great Depression? Families are struggling with our military involvements: Why not ask people who supported families through World War II? Struggling in your marriage? Why not ask people who have been happily married for 50 or 60 years? I’d love to see these kinds of conversations going on in every family – how about starting with family holidays like Thanksgiving?

Love those Book Clubs! Some Points for Discussion

One of the most fun things about publishing 30 Lessons for Living is occasionally attending meetings of book clubs that have read it. The book club movement is, in my opinion, among the hopeful signs in our culture. They show that people still care deeply about the written word, and clubs provide a supportive and friendly atmosphere that you find all too rarely these days.

I saw this first-hand in my recent visit to a book club at the invitation of Cindy Nicholson. This club is creatively named “Book Club,” and the members are pictured with me, above. In addition to discussing 30 Lessons for Living, I asked the club for their ideas on my next book, which is about elder wisdom for love, relationships, and marriage. they provided terrific ideas for what types of advice to ask about from long-married people. It was a lively and inspiring discussion!

All this got me to thinking about some questions that might help book clubs get the conversation rolling. Here are a few of my ideas. And book club members: If you have any more ideas, please comment!

1. Which of the 30 lessons resonated the most with you? Which lesson seemed to you the least important or relevant to your own experience? Why was this?

2. The elders I interviewed found the interviews interesting and enjoyable, but many of them also believed that younger people wouldn’t be interested in their advice for living. Do you think that there is an interest in elder wisdom? If not, is that a problem in our society?

3. One main point the elders make is that, from their perspective, life seems very short. Some psychologists say that this sense of a limited time horizon actually helps people make better decisions and to spend their time more wisely. Do you see benefits of this sense of life’s finitude? Or is it depressing?

4. The advice from the elders can sometimes seem out of step with today’s “conventional wisdom.” Which of their lessons offers the clearest alternative to “public opinion” on how to live your life?

5. Are there any of the lessons that you have used after reading the book in your own life? Or that you plan to use? What are these, and why?

6. Have you personally benefitted from elder wisdom in your own life (for example, advice from older relatives or friends)? How did it help you?

7. What do you think about the way older people are treated in contemporary society? What does the book imply for how our society could value older people?

8. The book is confined to older Americans. Do any group members have experiences with older people from different cultures? How might the findings in 30 Lessons for Living be different if the surveys were conducted in other nations?

These are just a start – Good luck with your discussions!

Best Books of 2012 – 30 Lessons for Living Is on the Lists!

The excitement about 30 Lessons for Living: Tried and True Advice from the Wisest Americans keeps spreading. At the Legacy Project, we hope this means people are waking up to the value of elder wisdom and how it can change our lives for the better.

One great sign: It’s an honor to report that 30 Lessons has been receiving “best book” recognition over the past few weeks:

Bloomberg News, Best Books of 2012: In the words of the reviewer:  “30 Lessons for Living: Tried and True Advice From the Wisest Americans by Karl Pillemer reminds us of what’s important in life. Superbly written.”

Rhode Island Bookstores, Best Gift Books of 2012.

Next Avenue’s Best Books to Boost Your Career. As the reviewer puts it: ” After reading [the book], I bet you’ll rethink your career and how you’ll want to work in the future.”

30 Lessons for Living: Readers React

It’s a great pleasure to hear readers’ reactions to 30 Lessons for Living: Tried and True Advice from the Wisest Americans. Our goal in the Legacy Project and the book was to encourage people to take elder wisdom seriously, and to return to the time-honored tradition of asking older people for their advice for living. It’s great that so many people have found this perspective to be useful.

We’ve been hearing a lot from book clubs who are reading 30 Lessons for Living. Just in from a New York book club member: “Last night we discussed your book at our book club — it generated one of our best discussions ever.  It was a great read for us!” The book seems to act as a springboard for profound book club discussions of how to make the most of your life.

We keep hearing from readers from around the country, like these:

From a reader in California:

For a number of years it has been on my back burner to travel the country with the intention to interview the elderly, believing that there is so much soulful information that exists with this cohort and how sad it is that we let it just slip away without notice or interest (or having it inform the actions and beliefs of the younger crowd). I was both delighted and a bit bummed out to discover your book (mostly delighted). It’s a wonderful book! Thank you for writing it with such integrity and genuine intent.

A fan from Taiwan (!):

 Thanks for your excellent book “30 Lessons for Living” which would help people around the world to rethink happiness and success and to find their own happy and successful life. I hope your efforts for the world will continue and bear fruit.

 And from a father-to-be in Memphis:

A work colleague and friend recently handed me a copy of your book “30 lessons for living” – a wonderful and easy read that reinforces many of the lessons my parents and elders have taught me (or tried to teach me!) over the years! As a soon-to-be first-time dad, I hope to pass on these lessons to our child. Thank you for all your hard work and research in putting the book together!  For some national reactions to the book, here is  a selection of media coverage:

The media also continue to spread the word about the elder wisdom that we have captured in the Legacy Project and the book.

The Washington Post just created a wonderful slideshow illustrating the lessons, called Twelve Ways to Live a Better Life.

I had a great interview this month with Dr. Michael Roizen (of the “You: The Owner’s Manual” books with Dr. Oz). You can listen here.

This article came out this week in the Wall Street Journal, urging people to follow the book’s lead and ask elders in their lives for lessons.

And many people are still enjoying these two reports from some months ago:

The PBS Newshour devoted a segment to the book, with interviews with two wonderfully wise elders.

Jane Brody published a terrific column on the book in the New York Times.

But the best  recognition that elder wisdom is critically important is this: Your support for this blog! Around 10,00 readers visit every month, and lots of you are viewing many lessons while you are here. Thanks to all of you for your interest, and for spreading the word about the Legacy Project!

We Welcome Our Summer Interns – and Guest Bloggers!

This summer, the Legacy Project has been thrilled to partner with the Division of Geriatrics and Gerontology at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York City on a college internship project.

Jackie Santo is majoring in Marketing at Tulane University, Class of 2015. Ariana Wolk is currently planning to major in Communication at Cornell University, Class of 2015. This well-qualified pair of young people were the first participants in The Risk and Resiliency Project. 

This fascinating new internship program focuses both on the problems and the positive side of aging. The interns looked at the issue of  elder abuse and neglect, but balanced this topic with a focus on the strengths of elder adults. The program is directed by Risa Breckman, who also directs the NYC Elder Abuse Center.

Ariana and Jackie contributed to The Legacy Project by interviewing older adults (using The Legacy Project’s interview protocol) about the lessons they want to pass on to younger generations. The internship also provides them each with a small grant to bring some aspect of what they have learned this summer about both elder wisdom and elder abuse to their college communities. 

Our next two posts will come from Ariana and Jackie, based on their interviews with wise elders. Stay tuned!